How Can People Continue to Downplay Chiropractic With Articles Like This?
Question by Marc: How can people continue to downplay Chiropractic with articles like this?
A study published in the June 2010 issue of The Journal of the American Board of Family Medicine, showed that people who used what the study called “Complementary and alternative medicine (CAM)” received a “great deal” of benefit. Chiropractic was included in what this medical study defined as CAM care.
The study received attention in a number of news stories including an article in the July 4, 2010 Medical News Today, and in a June 30, 2010 Business Wire release by the Foundation for Chiropractic Progress. The study surveyed people who had suffered from back pain and had used at least one CAM therapy in the last 12 months. Of these participants the results showed that over 60% found remarkable relief using the top six CAM treatments. Those treatments were chiropractic care, massage, yoga/tai chi/qi Cong, acupuncture, herbal therapies, and relaxation techniques – with chiropractic care being the most popular choice.
The Medical News Today story reported that back pain is the second leading reason people walk into a doctor’s office in the U.S. The survey looked at a total of 17 CAM therapies choices. Of those, Chiropractic care was the most popular approach at 74 percent, with massage a distant second at 22 percent.
I am not talking about the claims that people make about chiropractic that it will cure every ail (that is a totally different discussion). I am stating that there are those that continue to downplay the role of chiropractic in the musculo-skeletal arena. With this information, why would any person with healthcare knowledge or a self proclaimed skeptic, not at least concede that chiropractic has a very valuable place in the healthcare of musculo-skeletal arena? Knowing that drugs and surgery have potential bad side effects and that chiropractic care is safer and more effective (yes it is not completely without risk) why would a “knowledgeable” person not at least recommend, endorse or refer a patient for chiropractic with back pain? Is it not the position of the medical community to above all else do no harm? If drugs have the potential to be harmful with side effects and potential for addiction and abuse, isnt any of the modalities/chiropractic listed worth a try?
Once again I am not open to debating the “cure all” claims and the risk of CVA. That is not my position here. Please give your opinion about this article as it pertains only to musculoskeletal conditions and the role of chiro for said cases. I realize that is is not a scientific double blind study.
@Tink- Mall screening are disgraceful. I agree. Should be stopped. Cold laser- dont use so I have no comment on its use. As a chiro I make an assessment based upon history, consultation, physical examination and x-ray. I have the ability to refer out for MRI and additional diagnostics as necessary. This is what I was taught, this is what I do. That is how it is supposed to be done. PT and MDs work together because Pts are not portal of entry as you know. So the PT’s are an extension of medical. In my experience as a clinician I see PT as very useful for post surgical rehab. I see limited benefits for chronic issues. That is just my clinical observation for 13 years. Chiro is different because the base philosophy is different from MD and PT. Once again, the purpose here is not to debate these issues. I wish to have input regarding this article and its application. Thanks for your input.
Massage therapist- I can concede nothing to you. In the past you have made comments and observations that were completely out of line. You have taken the entire chiro profession and lumped it one category-Unethical snake oil salesmen. You have mocked and attempted to discredit chiropractic and its educational practices. I think the opposite of what you have put forth, there are more and more chiros working from this point of view, not less. By your own admission you live in a small town so you have a very limited exposure to perhaps what is changing out there. This article I referred to supports massage therapy as a CAM good for back pain as well. Ive have never supported the woo claims but you have personally attacked me personally over and over. You have argued your way into a corner.
Best answer:
Answer by Mr E
it’s as simple as the adage, “to your enemy, no explanation is sufficient”. these people have abundantly proven over the last century, they will not objectively evaluate alternatives. on the contrary, they are strongly prejudiced against anything which threatens their power and profits and typically dismiss them out of hand. their prejudice makes all their so-called studies about them worth a mountain of used toilet paper for that reason. they absolutely refuse to consider anything but standard medical treatment, and they don’t care in the least how many people get bankrupted, hurt or killed by it either.
Answer by Tink
I don’t have anything against manual therapies – any of them, so long as they are administered with regard to the patients health and safety. What I have a “thing” against are those chiropractors who are giving assessments to kids shopping for school supplies to hustle up business.
Hm, I guess I do take issue with this notion of “subluxation” I don’t think anyone really needs a cracking and whacking session, but muscle and fascia release certainly have benefits – but then again, physical therapists can do that…that’s one of the things that has always confused me….just what makes chiro (as a field) think that it’s so “different”? For example, physical therapists work with doctors, doctors can provide accurate diagnosis based upon radiological techniques that aren’t available to chiropractors (MRI for example) and often the physical therapist are written orders to “assess and treat as necessary (that’s been my case, with several insurance providers/hospital systems) – why do chiropractors so often insist they can make a dx with only an x-ray?!?!? That get’s me, but I digress…point being, many of the treatments that are given under the label of “alternative” are also used by conventional medicine – just wearing a different label. It would appear that if chiro’s gave up some woo {what is up with those silly “laser” machines?) it would benefit them as a whole professionally.
Edit *** That’s my opinion of the article below, it was kinda easy to overlook***
It’s not a secret that people who seek alternative care have conditions that are typically chronic and resistant to all treatment – however, it’s not a secret that many of them also regress to the mean regardless of therapy used….including the conventional means. I have a theory that chiropractic is the most popular because it is one most people are familiar with, they tend to be intimidated by exercise, and many massage therapists deliver fluff and buff.
Add: As far as would I recommend one? The only one that I know that I would trust retired a few years ago. (He is now 96). Most of them are simply too knee-deep in unethical behavior. Over the years I’ve seen a D.O. of manipulative medicine, and an incredible massage therapist that I would send people to first.
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